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EDIT/DELETE: Moderating Rules
Ginny
Past Committee Member


Posted: Dec 29th, 2008 at 08:08 pm

Please note the correction -- made in blue. This is not actually a change to the original intention of the rules. It is a correction.

Quote:
EDIT/DELETE
Posts made by obvious trolls (quoting Darwinism) may be subject to immediate deletion by any moderator. SPAM should also be deleted immediately. With regard to allergy related ads, do not delete.

Editing/deleting of member posts should be done as little as possible. The following should be edited ASAP and a PM sent explaining why.




If a person asks you edit/delete their own post because they can't figure it out.


If someone posts personal information about a member who does not post that information themselves (e.g. names, children's names).


If someone [quotes] another post that includes personally identifying information which is later deleted.


If original poster requested not to be quoted as they plan to edit out personally identifying info later.


This is a reminder that although anyone can request they not be quoted, this will only be enforced by moderators or committee members if it is seen as personally identifying information.

This is a discussion forum not a blog.

PM's on this account will not be checked.
YouKnowWho
Member


Posted: Dec 29th, 2008 at 08:19 pm

I agree, to a point.

There are certain members who ask not to be quoted. We all have situations that are sensitive, I don't disagree. But the use of the quote has been abused by them and it's really only to put something truly spiteful out there for a few moments, then to disappear like it didn't matter.

Sticks and stones, hurt, but names will never hurt me only works when you are on a board where it's truly hurting you. I wear my heart on my sleeve. I have a few friends that live in other states. My day to day friends are on this board. And it hurts when your friends/acquaintances stab you on the board in the name of good drama. Must learn to pick my friends better, I don't disagree. But here I am, on a group who understands my daily struggles and it makes it harder.

USA

DS1 (age 6) - wheat, rye, barley and eggs
DS2 (age 5) - soy,legumes, mushrooms, peanuts and tree nuts
DD1 - (age 1) - NKA/Beef Jerky Junkie

DH - many food intolerances
Me - eggplant, banana, drug allergies

Hermione
Past Committee Member


Posted: Dec 29th, 2008 at 08:28 pm

We are really just trying to clarify that the rules about how/when moderators can be involved in editing the posts of others (and quotes that might be contained within them)... moderator edits of quotes are really only intended to be applied to information which might be personally identifying.

Part of the reason for this is purely pragmatic.

The quote button exists here.

Our moderators are all-volunteer. They don't have endless time to devote to snipping and editing posts just because-- well, just 'because.'

We'd like to really limit the amount of moderator involvement in editing posts. Because it is a slippery slope-- and those judgement calls are not ones that I want to make, either.

Now, we could simply make the quote feature go away, if the community wanted it to (but as others have noted elsewhere, it doesn't prevent someone from doing it manually anyway). OR we could simply say that there will be no editing by moderators.

But neither option seemed very good; sharing information temporarily is useful to us as a community. (ETA: we will continue to fully endorse moderator edits for information which is personally identifying, in light of how contentious relations with schools and extended family can become at times. This is the nature of our community's common bond.)

(Just hoping that this clarifies things.)

~CM2 (Hermione)





Last Edited by Hermione Dec 29th, 2008 at 08:31 pm

FORMER committee member
Stinky
Member


Posted: Dec 29th, 2008 at 08:35 pm

I think when a thread gets long and sometimes has many conversations going on quoting is VERY helpful. I should do it more often.

I spell bad and am not a medical professional.

DS(1 and only) - PA,
Ddog - allergic to wheat - on gf raw food








Posted: Dec 29th, 2008 at 08:58 pm

The other day, I started a thread in the main discussion board, letting members know about a food allergy TV program that was on, at that moment. It was showing at the same time, no matter the time zone. No one posted to the thread besides me. When the program had finished, I deleted the thread so that it wouldn't cause confusion.

Am I not allowed to delete under circumstances such as this?

SilverLining
Moderator1


Posted: Dec 29th, 2008 at 09:04 pm

You can edit and delete your posts.

We are speaking here about when mods need to edit the post of other members.

Too many people miss the silver lining because they're expecting gold. ~~~ Maurice Setter








Posted: Dec 29th, 2008 at 09:06 pm

Dec 29th, 2008 at 09:04 pm, SilverLining wrote:
You can edit and delete your posts.

We are speaking here about when mods need to edit the post of other members.


Phew. Thanks.

RoseLynn
Member


Posted: Dec 30th, 2008 at 06:04 am

I'm really not trying to stir the pot and I think I "get" what you're saying, but would someone elaborate more on what "personally identifying" is? To me, it seems like it needs to be interpreted at times.

USA
Ginny
Past Committee Member


Posted: Dec 30th, 2008 at 08:51 am

Personally identifying information would include names, location, school. It's impossible to define everything that could be identifying.

There have been instances where a person posts information temporarily to get or give help, or after posting information they find out someone from their school has found this forum and due to the specific nature of their problems with the school, they become concerned that they will be identifiable through a few of their posts.

If it's very obviously identifying a mod can edit it out for you. If it's not so obvious a committee member should be contacted.

Anything within your own post you can edit yourself, but we will help if personally identifying information is reposted or quoted within someone else's post if you have edited that information out of your own post. In most instances people who reposted or quoted have been willing to edit that type of information out of their posts themselves.

PM's on this account will not be checked.
jw
Member


Posted: Dec 30th, 2008 at 04:26 pm

An example of something that is safe until someone else from your school hops on the board is a thread complaining about the peanut and Butterfinger toppings at the ice cream social last Friday and how they were supposed to improve after the fiasco at the Book Fair two weeks ago.
To someone across the country, that's not identifying, but to someone at the same school; it's a big tip that could cause them to read all your posts and confirm their suspicion.

CMdeux
Moderator1


Posted: Dec 30th, 2008 at 04:29 pm

Exactly. Thank you, JW, for providing a perfect example.

That is the sort of thing that might seem, well, just plain ODD-- but only until you explained it to a Committee member or Moderator in those terms. Smiley








USA
Arkadia
Member


Posted: Jan 2nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm

Dec 29th, 2008 at 08:08 pm, Ginny wrote:


This is a discussion forum not a blog.


um....i've heard this several times. doesn't matter to me either way, but could someone explain what the difference is between the two?

"I don't necessarily want allergen-free schools, but if you go overboard on awareness then it just takes away from the integrity of what's going on here. I learned that I have to be more compassionate to families that are inconvenienced (by my sons' allergies)."

~Holly Robinson Peete
jw
Member


Posted: Jan 2nd, 2009 at 01:00 pm

A blog is like a thread where only one person posts with (usually) routine updates. If you are a member of KFA, some of the diary threads are very close to a blog (if it's one that doesn't get comments from people, just a record of that person's experience).
Does that help?

CMdeux
Moderator1


Posted: Jan 2nd, 2009 at 01:05 pm

A blog is for people who like to TALK. (Kind of a personal soapbox, really.)

A message board is for people that like to 'listen,' or at least carry on a conversation that goes more than one direction. Smiley

A newspaper columnist would be a 'blogger' while a talk-show host is not. (Does that help?)








USA
Arkadia
Member


Posted: Jan 2nd, 2009 at 01:11 pm

the replies all help. Very clear now. It's just some blogs have lots of "posted messages". Yes.....this is not a blog.

"I don't necessarily want allergen-free schools, but if you go overboard on awareness then it just takes away from the integrity of what's going on here. I learned that I have to be more compassionate to families that are inconvenienced (by my sons' allergies)."

~Holly Robinson Peete
momofjandl
Member


Posted: Jan 6th, 2009 at 11:17 am

Though some blogs have several posters or allow the public to post...

like apartment therapy...

The blogging world is a changing.

Just an FYI

But no, this is not a blog. Smiley

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