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Posted by: Craig Langelier
« on: February 10, 2016, 06:04:34 PM »

I realize this is outside the box thinking, but could it be environmental factors add to the epidemic of allergies?  I'd like to tell you a very brief and interesting story that will reveal things that few people are aware of.

Flying home a few years back, the person sitting next to me in first class (who was also flying home), was the top chemist for a large global company that manufacturers smokestack scrubbers for trash burning facilities.

I've produced hundreds of TV commercial, and after we talked about my commercials he'd seen... he told me his story.

He explained that the scrubbers extract particles from the smoke, including heavy metals, and create a sludge.  And that the sludge was used as the filler in sheetrock (or drywall), instead of gypsum.

He also named a sheetrock manufacturing plant in the midwest, that was being built specifically in the middle of several large new trash burning facilities.  And stated that he suspected the heavy metals in the sheetrock, might be the cause of the epidemic of allergies in children.  He also warned against cutting sheetrock, without wearing a quality mask.

Being a chemist, he went into detail about the heavy metals, but it was way over my head. He also state that using sludge in sheetrock was something relatively new.  I think he indicated it had been happening for only 20 or 30 years.

As far as the dangers of sheetrock, I know that many homes built in the Naples, Florida area, built between 2005 to 2010 have had to have all their sheetrock (and plumbing and wiring) removed, because the material in the sheetrock was toxic, destroying wiring and plumbing, and causing serious health issues. 

Any real estate broker in the area can tell you about it.  They refer to it as Chinese sheetrock.  But I suspect the sheetrock may not really be so Chinese.

In any event, hope this helps.


Posted by: twinturbo
« on: December 09, 2012, 05:08:19 PM »

I have the medicine from Dr. Li but have yet to take it due to a blood complication.

All others here on the herbal formula do so through clinical trial. For the sake of clarity may we know if you are supplied by the clinical trial researchers either through the trial itself or through Dr. Li or associated researchers? I am an absolute advocate of TCM but disclosure of relevant diagnostics and sourcing would be helpful for those either in the trial or thinking about it. That's why many previous posters mention studies, trial, etc.

I can try to post a picture of the bottles later including the digestive tea I mentioned. Dr. Li is great, FWIW. She's of the calibre of MD + TCM you'd find in major hospitals if you're familiar with such. Like Sicherer, busy yet still very attentive.
Posted by: dirtyduck
« on: December 09, 2012, 04:34:42 PM »

so far is it working for you? do you write anywhere about it?
Posted by: twinturbo
« on: December 09, 2012, 01:05:41 PM »

Which Chinese pharmacy? Dr. Li's private practice TCM clinic in Manhattan? Or one associated with the clinical trials? Or did you go to another completely unassociated with any of them? Just wondering if it's the same manufacture or other.



Because I'm a patient of Mt. Sinai and FAHF-2 developer Dr. Xiu-min Li and I have seen her for the herbal formula outside of the clinical trials I'll provide a synopsis for any interested parties.

Here's the process:

1. Call Mt. Sinai for Dr. Li's office. You'll get Sharon Hamlin. Sharon will direct you on how to make an appointment to see Dr. Li at the Chinese medicine clinic. You'll do this all through official Mt. Sinai correspondence.

2. The clinic is Ming Qi Acupuncture on Madison Avenue. It's literally the nicest Chinese medicine clinic I've ever been in--swank. That doesn't make it better just commenting on the decoration. The ones I usually go to are more suburban or cash-only hole in the wall.

3. Prior to your appointment you'll need to get a current IgE test through local allergist and some other specifics to bring with you, they were specific in the literature they sent to me but I've forgotten since then. Dr. Li will review your data personally at the beginning of your appointment.

4. Dr. Li goes over the formula dosage and additionally the digestive tea (pills) if she prescribes them.

5. For out of state patients (which there are many, even out of country) she will require a phone in appointment to check up at the 3 month mark, a face to face at the 6 month mark with updated repeat test results if I remember correctly.

6. Dr. Li cautioned about other products claiming to be FAHF-2 or using her name without permission to endorse a similarly marketed item. At the time I was told establishing in person with Dr. Li at Ming Qi was the only way to get the regulated and endorsed version of FAHF-2 without participating in any clinical trial.



Personally, I've taken Chinese herbs at many points in my life including pregnancy, as has most of our extended family. Having that background, under LTFA circumstances with a supplement that is under clinical trial, I would be hesitant to call anything else FAHF-2 specifically if it is not part of the formula that is undergoing clinical trial or supplied by the administrators of the clinical trial. For anything else I would encourage further specification to sourcing so that others may be aware.

It's actually likely that a good local Chinese pharmacy can provide the same formula, there's one or two I would trust for myself. But for reporting purposes when most are awaiting news on a product through official channels it could be a difficult comparison without the scientific controls.
Posted by: dirtyduck
« on: December 09, 2012, 12:55:08 PM »

its sunday. my throat feels ok (a 3 on a scale of 1-10). i have been eating more grains, which usually makes me more congested than i have been. like post nasal drip type thing, gross i know. i have been feeling slightly less afraid of some foods, but i think i might hold off on the date test for a few more days. not feeling that confident.

swallowing about 18 pills a day is bad. i dont know how they got the kids to do it for those FAHF-2 clinical testing groups. they are real troopers.

TwinT, a Chinese pharmacy.
Posted by: twinturbo
« on: December 08, 2012, 11:53:36 AM »

Where did you get it from?
Posted by: mw
« on: December 07, 2012, 03:38:54 PM »

still no huge things to report, i am on my fifth day. i read one report where the peanut allergy testing that they did, came back at 50% less, after only one week! so i am going to try eating a small piece of a date (fruit) this monday, a week from the day i started. i am not highly allergic to peanuts like so many people. but FAHF-2 works on histamine levels, not just for peanut allergies. when i eat dates, my lips get numb and tingly, my tongue feels like i licked a battery and my brain feels like a dark cloud settles in. so we will see. any questions please ask, or ideas of how to test this on my own. i do not have insurance and i have not been tested in a medical setting, so this is HIGHLY unscientific. BUT i do know when i am allergic to something!!!
Posted by: Mfamom
« on: December 06, 2012, 08:24:06 AM »

LOL glad its going down the pipe !  Welcome and I am looking forward to following your experience
Posted by: momtoAidenDeclan
« on: December 06, 2012, 05:51:09 AM »

Good luck!  With an almost teen with a life threatening food allergy I am watching all studies...good luck and thanks!
Posted by: CMdeux
« on: December 05, 2012, 09:34:01 PM »



Yeah, the newer studies are about oral administration only, I hear.     :thumbsup:
Posted by: mw
« on: December 05, 2012, 04:58:18 PM »

so..i was reading through what some ppl here were saying about FAHF-2 and i just want EVERYONE to know nothing is going ANYWHERE except in pill form down my throat...
Posted by: mw
« on: December 05, 2012, 11:00:15 AM »

ok and thank you for moving it. i dont feel much difference yet, but its still only three doses in lol:) ill report back:)
Posted by: rebekahc
« on: December 05, 2012, 08:48:52 AM »

I think many here will find reading about your experience interesting.  I'm moving this thread to the Main discussion board where it will be more visible.  :)
Posted by: Macabre
« on: December 05, 2012, 12:15:56 AM »

Welcome!! Yes, folks here would very much like to learn about your experience! I had looked at being in the trial a few years ago, but I lived 6-7 hours from NYC, and it just wasn't very doable.  :(

Thank you for doing such an incredible thing for the entire food allergy community.  I hope it helps you individually, too!
Posted by: dirtyduck
« on: December 04, 2012, 10:14:05 PM »

i am hoping that my foggy brain and hormone problems, which are greatly affected by what i eat, will calm down! does anybody else have hormone problems exacerbated by what they eat???