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Offline APV

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Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines ??
« on: January 30, 2015, 12:00:42 AM »
Polysorbate 80 is used in many vaccines.

This document - Avantor's injectable grade Polysorbate 80 datasheet:
http://askavantor.force.com/servlet/fileField?id=0BEG0000000TSTm

says:
“Rev. 7; March 30, 2011 – Section 4: Added peanuts
to the Allergen list; Corrected residual
solvents info for Ethylene glycol; minor formatting. (JLW) ”

So Avantor was unable to guarantee that this Polysorbate 80 was not contaminated with peanuts, before 2011.
Today, you will see Avantor specifically claiming their product is of non-peanut origin.

Documented evidence that vaccines have been contaminated with peanut proteins all along ...

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Modified with added "??" for topic header for clarification.

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2015, 12:08:06 AM »
No.

They haven't.

NEXT.
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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2015, 09:40:39 PM »

Next?

Here we go.. here is an article about a mother who has a son who is not vaccinated and I totally agree with her:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamie-davis-smith/why-my-son-isnt-vaccinated_b_6522914.html
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CANADA, land of maple syrup and poutine
Me:  peanuts, ragweed
DD1:  PRACTICALLY EVERYTHING NOW! peanuts, tree nuts, sesame, eggs, wheat, lentils/peas/beans, leaf mould
DD2:  milk (and avoiding peanuts)

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2015, 11:14:40 PM »
Vaccines are one of greatest achievements of medicine and are very important. Everyone should be vaccinated with safe vaccines. Vaccines contaminated with food proteins however, have contributed to the food allergy epidemic. It is unacceptable that our children cannot eat food without the fear of dying.

Parents should never have to chose between vaccine-preventable deadly diseases and vaccine-induced life threatening illness.

Summary:
Childhood Immune Disorder Risk Map per the Richet Allergy Model
https://foodallergycauses.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/cidm1.pdf

Details with numerous peer-reviewed published references:
https://foodallergycauses.wordpress.com/

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2015, 07:51:39 AM »
APV what exactly is your reason for posting all this?

Do you want to stop people from getting shots?

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2015, 07:59:20 AM »
Peanut is just one of many common food allergens in the USA.  Early exposure to these allergens seems to prevent the development of food allergies.  So, even if peanut were in vaccines that would be neither here not there with regard to food allergies.  I know many people who don't vaccinate who have food allergic children.  I think the cause of the rise in food allergies lies elsewhere.


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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2015, 09:14:52 AM »
I looked over the other thread quickly.  If exposure the the bloodstream of food proteins were the cause of food allergies, gelatin would be a top allergens (or pork or beef from which gelatin is derived) and they are not.  There are top allergens that don't occur in vaccines at all.

And skin testing would cause food allergies, which it does not appear to do.

I can relate to the desire to know why this happened to your child.  I think the idea that one could read various things and figure it out while top allergy researchers haven't isn't likely. 

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2015, 06:05:19 PM »
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/30/1361224/-Roald-Dahl-s-Heartbreaking-Take-on-Vaccines?detail=facebook

Roald Dhal's take on vaccines. 



havent read this thread in detail. but will say that my peanut (and other allergies) son has had ALL of his vaccinations. As have all my children. Nothing I have ever read about the dangers of vaccines has ever changed my mind on this subject.

I have seen whooping cough that caused brain damage in my cousin, you dont forget that noise.
I have a aunt with a curved spine, poor eyesight and is partially deaf, because her mother caught measles when she was pregnant.
Allergies are not caused by vaccines nor is autism. Even if they were, I would say food allergies were the lesser evil. I say that as mother who has seen anaphylaxis and have seen the effect of another  very  cruel disease in my family . If my children were not vaccinated they would not be able to see those children in my family with this condition.  Their health depends on not being exposed to any common significant illness. 
 
Jenner needs greater recognition for his work imo!!
Its OK to have dreams:one day my kids will be legal adults & have the skills to pick up a bath towel.

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2015, 11:07:48 PM »
APV what exactly is your reason for posting all this?

Do you want to stop people from getting shots?

Safer vaccines.

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2015, 11:40:04 PM »
I looked over the other thread quickly.  If exposure the the bloodstream of food proteins were the cause of food allergies, gelatin would be a top allergens (or pork or beef from which gelatin is derived) and they are not.  There are top allergens that don't occur in vaccines at all.

And skin testing would cause food allergies, which it does not appear to do.

I can relate to the desire to know why this happened to your child.  I think the idea that one could read various things and figure it out while top allergy researchers haven't isn't likely.


Gelatin used in US vaccines is hydrolyzed so the protein is broken down. However, there is no specification for residual intact gelatin. So it causes this:
http://acaai.org/news/allergic-gummy-bears-be-cautious-getting-flu-shot

And gelatin allergy caused by vaccines was a well known problem since the late 90s and the FDA has refused to fix it:
Kuno-Sakai H, Kimura M. Removal of gelatin from live vaccines and DTaP-an ultimate solution for vaccine-related gelatin allergy.Biologicals 2003;31:245-9.

Egg (ovalbumin), milk (casein), seafood (seaweed derived agar), tree nut/peanut/wheat (Polysorbate 80), soy are all present in vaccines. And the Vitamin K1 injection contains 10 mg of Polysorbate 80.

Allergy researchers have found the problem and called for removal of food proteins from vaccines. The FDA has done nothing.

It has been observed even in 1940 that vaccines cause sensitization/induce allergy. Second dose of the same vaccine resulted in an allergic reaction.

ALLERGY INDUCED BY IMMUNIZATION WITH TETANUS TOXOID
ROBERT A. COOKE, M.D.; STANLEY HAMPTON, M.D.; WILLIAM B. SHERMAN, M.D.; ARTHUR STULL, Ph.D.
JAMA. 1940;114(19):1854-1858. doi:10.1001/jama.1940.02810190016005.
http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1160278

Paper 1.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM195204032461403
They show 5 of 312 developed dermal sensitivity to egg white due to the egg proteins present in vaccines.

Paper 2.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1034/j.1399-3038.2001.1r046.x/abstract
says “Some epidemiological studies in humans suggest an inhibitory effect of tuberculosis on allergy”.

The children in Paper 1, were all under treatment for tuberculosis.
So the authors seem to have unknowingly selected a population with some protection against allergy.

So even in a population with some protection against allergy, sensitivity was detectable in 1.6% of the patients, in 1952.

In 1967, flu vaccines contained 7.4 mcg/ml of ovalbumin (egg protein).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pm... <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC377279/pdf/applmicro00114-0216.pdf>

And in 2009, flu vaccines had as much as 38.3 mcg/ml of ovalbumin:

http://www.jacionline.org/arti... <http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749%2809%2902305-7/fulltext>

“Since the 1997-1998 influenza season, 51 lots of vaccine have been
tested. The brands and lots with the lowest level of ovalbumin were
chosen for vaccination of egg allergic patients to avoid adverse events.
The concentration of ovalbumin in the same brand varied from year to
year (e.g. Flumist®: 005-0.8 μg/ml; Flushied®, 6.90-38.30 μg/ml;
Fluarix®, 0.025-0.31 μg/ml; Fluzone®, 0.30-8.05 μg/ml; Fluvirin®,
<0.01-0.55 μg/ml)."


http://www.jacionline.org/arti... <http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749%2809%2902305-7/fulltext>
"CONCLUSIONS: There are significant variations in the egg protein content between the different brands and different lots of flu vaccines, varying by over 100-fold in some preparations. Inocula grown on human cell culture may provide a safer alternative to existing flu vaccines."

http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(11)00747-0/fulltext
"Manufacturer investigation and possible labeling or elimination of casein from the vaccines might avoid this risk"

Skin testing for allergy is a bad idea:
http://www.allergynutrition.com/journal/joneja-jmv-comment-skin-testing-2004-full-article/

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2015, 12:42:08 AM »
APV what exactly is your reason for posting all this?

Do you want to stop people from getting shots?

Safer vaccines.

And how does posting your "research" on this forum help you attain that end?  I think it's obvious this group is not jumping on your bandwagon.

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2015, 01:01:23 AM »
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Egg (ovalbumin), milk (casein), seafood (seaweed derived agar), tree nut/peanut/wheat (Polysorbate 80), soy are all present in vaccines. And the Vitamin K1 injection contains 10 mg of Polysorbate 80.

Allergy researchers have found the problem and called for removal of food proteins from vaccines. The FDA has done nothing.


References, please.

Credible ones.  (Your final link doesn't pass the sniff test.)


Also-- you very clearly do NOT understand what you are dredging up as you troll through old (VERY old, in most cases) research papers:

A.  case reports like those made in the link you provide re: casein in TDaP, etc. are by definition rare or they would not be publication worthy-- and in spite of this, I'm pretty comfortable saying that to many of this community, it's also not news.  I'm betting that we have many members whose children have been safely vaccinated in spite of life-threatening milk allergy-- though a judicious skin test just prior probably doesn't go amiss.  Just like with a flu vax for someone with a very severe egg allergy history.

B.  Ahhhh, yes-- that tetanus paper is from before Pearl Harbor.  Did you read the entire thing, anyway?  Understand it?   I'm not sure that it says what you think it does.  Again-- rarity makes the two cases publication-worthy.  Also worth noting that the vaccine and its adjuvants are completely different now, so it isn't immediately clear that this has any bearing on modern practices anyway.

I would caution you, as you read literature published prior to, say, 1975; in most instances, you need to have a clear understanding of clinical practices AT THE TIME in order to make evaluations about statements and clinical features reported.  One must also accept that some features simply cannot translate into modern parlance because they are archaic/gross by modern standards.  Some caution is needed even with reported interventions and treatments, which have also changed radically.  This set of problems becomes more extreme when reading literature published prior to 1960.  Conflation/misunderstandings of a molecular nature are exceedingly common, and modern instrumentation/tools of analysis were crude where they existed at all.


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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2015, 07:25:01 AM »
Seaweed or agar is not a top allergen in this country and gelatin allergen is so rare it is about unheard of.  I'm not sure what your source is for that claim.

Not all top allergens are in vaccines. 

What are the chances that top food allergy researchers have not figured out the cause of the increase in food allergies but you have somehow by reading things? 

Hygene hypothesis--maybe.  GMO in foods--doesn't seem like it but I'm not 100% certain of that.  How food is processed?  Seems to have some type of link.  How often a given food is eaten in a culture?  Seems to have some link.  Gut bacteria--might be related according to some recent things I read but I don't understand those studies well enough personally.  The jury is still out.  If someone is convinced that it is vaccines that cause food allergies or the recent increase I'm turned off, frankly, because that does not appear to be the case. 

I recommend you look at desensitization programs and see if they might be something in which you are interested.  We are doing it now with our child and so far it is working well.  Others here are wary of it but some of us here are doing it/did it with good results.

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2015, 10:52:25 AM »
Can we change the thread title?  It's incorrect.  There is no evidence.  Can this and all future claims about vaccines causing food allergies be merged with an appropriate title that does not unduly cause unnecessary alarm in anyone who does not understand what research and evidence truly means?  I'm not saying censor or delete but properly manage and remove the sensationalism to bring it to the level of do no further harm.

Sincerely,

FAS member with a confirmed case of measles one county away and a child who I have to check with ped on Monday if he's both old enough to receive his second MMR, and recovered enough from his recent serious illness to take the vax more urgently in light of measles at our back door.

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Re: Evidence of peanut proteins in vaccines
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2015, 04:07:54 PM »
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And how does posting your "research" on this forum help you attain that end?


Many influenza vaccines are free of Polysorbate 80. One could choose those and bring market pressure on vaccine makers to make safer vaccines?
Here's a summary of 2014-2015 influenza vaccine contents:
https://mttmblog.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/flusum2014.pdf
Source: http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/ucm094045.htm

You can demand the FDA remove food proteins from vaccines?

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I think it's obvious this group is not jumping on your bandwagon.


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