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Author Topic: Guess it's time for an egg challenge for kid two.  (Read 6243 times)

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Offline krasota

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Guess it's time for an egg challenge for kid two.
« on: November 29, 2015, 08:39:01 PM »
So I read the ingredients list on a frozen GF pizza three times today.  I'm so exhausted that I missed the egg.  And I was expecting to see it there, because it's gluten-free, so of course it has egg.  (But there are a couple brands that don't . . . )  Anyhow, I missed it, she ate the pizza, then I re-read the ingredients before posting about it on a celiac group (hey, my glutenoid kids love this stuff!) and there it was.

She's totally fine right now.  She'd been eating on it for at least half an hour (two and a half pieces, so a bit more than a quarter of a small pizza) when I took it away.  She's pissed at me because she wants it, but she's three and I'm the mom.  No hives I can see, she's acting normal, no wheezing, no scratching.

Her egg challenge was supposed to happen after she went a year with no reaction.  She reacted via contact very early this year, last winter.

I'm really frustrated with myself, but hey, there's some hope for my kid, right?  *sigh*


It's Aldi's GF pepperoni pizza.  No bottom-of-thel-list contains list, no bolding of ingredients, just all plain text listing.  And I read and re-read religiously.  I just made a mistake.   :banghead:  Really glad she's okay now.  Also glad I'm a night owl.  I'll still be awake in 6-8 hours if she somehow (although it's not likely) has a biphasic reaction.   :disappointed:
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DS (04/07) eggs (baked okay now!)
DD (03/12) eggs (small dose baked), stevia
DH histamine intolerance
Me?  Some days it seems like everything.

Offline Macabre

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Re: Guess it's time for an egg challenge for kid two.
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2015, 09:44:24 PM »
((Hugs)) -- it's hard when we miss something.  But not killing your kid in the process is great, and what that may mean in real life is freaking awesome.
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Re: Guess it's time for an egg challenge for kid two.
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 12:57:56 PM »
k, just now seeing this!


Something to be aware of is that with egg in particular, skin and consumption are so not the same thing allergy-wise.  So it is totally possible for a skin test to remain positive-- maybe even spectacularly so-- way after clinical tolerance, especially to highly heated, diluted (in other ingredients) egg in real-world food.

Contact reactivity to raw or partially raw egg (like mayo, or concentrated sources of egg) may not mean much, apparently.  There is some speculation that all those kids diagnosed via hives after contact with royal icing (#*%^ing gingerbread $*(% houses) might not have EVER been truly egg allergic, much to my surprise.  I read that somewhere pretty reputable-- might have been an op-ed or meeting notes or something from someone... er... pretty big.  Wood?  Sampson?  Lack?  Someone like that.

I can't (unfortunately) come up with a lot of peer reviewed stuff to support any of this with egg, but I have seen it here and there, mostly in articles that are about other stuff.  It's also something that there has been water-cooler talk about at meetings, according to Dr. Awesome.  It's one reason why flu vax and SPT is viewed as a big question mark at this point-- on the one hand, it's not for oral consumption (which is where tolerance seems to happen first) but on the other, SPT seems to indicate allergy more than is actually warranted... and maybe even for injectables.




:shrug:


Glad that she's okay!!  And hey-- don't beat yourself up.  As mac noted, not-killing-your-kid means it was a minor mistake.  The kind of mistake that other parents (without FA kiddos) make without even THINKING about it. 

Gaining something (like, hey-- a FOOD CHALLENGE) from it is more awesome still.  Other parents don't even get anything out of it when they forget to buckle the car seat that one time when nothing bad happens, right?   :heart:
« Last Edit: November 30, 2015, 01:00:39 PM by CMdeux »
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Re: Guess it's time for an egg challenge for kid two.
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2015, 09:39:07 PM »
When she reacted badly enough (first time) to go to the ER, she had hives all over, was pulling at her ears/neck, coughing, and was very flushed.  Her BP and oxygen levels also dropped while we were there.  With a positive RAST and the reaction, the allergist said avoid and come back if she went a year with no reactions.

When she reacted via contact to cooked (not baked) egg several months later, my memory says it was non-localized hives and flushing with no pulling at her neck or ears, no coughing, no gagging.  I dosed her with benadryl since it was *just* skin and kept an eye on her.  We live within spitting distance of the ER, so I was comfortable with that (epis at the ready).  It's the non-localized reaction that worries me with that stuff.

But hey, outgrowing it would be awesome.  I'll make an appt with her allergist the next time we visit the pulm.


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DS (04/07) eggs (baked okay now!)
DD (03/12) eggs (small dose baked), stevia
DH histamine intolerance
Me?  Some days it seems like everything.

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Re: Guess it's time for an egg challenge for kid two.
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2015, 11:48:51 AM »
Yes, it would!!  :crossed:  for you guys-- egg has been so huge.
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Re: Guess it's time for an egg challenge for kid two.
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2015, 05:40:39 PM »
Just reading this too. As others have said, don't beat yourself up. At least your kiddo might be a good candidate for a baked egg challenge. And to have that happen at such a young age would be wonderful. My kiddo still balks at her baked egg doses; I think that's because she's been told her whole life about the negative consequences of eating egg for her.

This should also provide hope for giving your kiddo the flu vaccine especially with her respiratory issues.
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Re: Guess it's time for an egg challenge for kid two.
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2015, 08:33:20 PM »
We actually did a scratch test with the flu vax for her last month.  She was fine, tolerated the first dose fine, too.  We'll do the second shot in a couple weeks.

DS loves his baked egg doses.  We just use GF bread or cupcakes most days, but he likes having baked goods at friends' homes, too. 
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DS (04/07) eggs (baked okay now!)
DD (03/12) eggs (small dose baked), stevia
DH histamine intolerance
Me?  Some days it seems like everything.

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Re: Guess it's time for an egg challenge for kid two.
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2015, 01:03:12 PM »
DD was in double digits when she had her first baked egg challenge and was a teenager during the second. Egg was her first allergy, diagnosed at 8.5 months.
"Oh, I'm such an unholy mess of a girl."

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