Does anyone have experience with perioral dermatitis or facial eczema?
It looks awesome.
From what I have been reading online, it says not to use cortisone cream on the face, not even the milder OTC products. Some site say not to use any lotion or cream or cosmetic at all (there is no hope for concealer anyway). I also have very dry skin that not only flakes and peels but can crack and bleed so I am not confident that going without anything will be helpful. So far I have only used calendula cream for the itching and this week used some lysine balm in and around my nose for a patchy cold sore and deep cracks inside one nostril. Yep, looks even more awesome.
I would love to hear how others have dealt with eczema on the face. I have a patch to the side of my nose which seems to be creeping up my cheek, and two red dotty patches under and around both sides of my lips. It looks embarrassingly similar to teething rash. Plus horrible crusty patches under each eyebrow (thankfully small and mostly healed right now).
My dermatologist has prescribed brief treatments with steroid cream for both myself and my boys.
My teenage daughter has facial eczema often. She gets like you describe, including in her eyebrows, which she really hates.
Her dermatologist told us to buy DML facial moisturizer, which I had to order from Walgreens (and got fed up with our local Walgreens and ended up ordering it direct from the company). DD says it's the best stuff she has used on her face. And we've tried a lot of different products.
Here it is on Amazon, and the ingredients are listed:
http://www.amazon.com/DML-Daily-Facial-Moisturizer-SPF/dp/B000052YN5 (http://www.amazon.com/DML-Daily-Facial-Moisturizer-SPF/dp/B000052YN5)
Otherwise, Vanicream is the other moisturizer we have on hand all the time. It's thick but it does work well.
And also -- for somewhat immediate relief, do "wet wraps" on your face. Use wet washcloths and place them on your face for 15 min. Then use whatever lotion/cream you have on hand --- cream if you have it -- the thicker the better. Put it on within 3 minutes of taking the washcloths off. Do this 2 or 3 times a day as you can.
I've had it on my eyelids from using "cheap drugstaw makeup" (as my Fran Drescher-voiced dermatologist calls it). She said it was OK to use mild hydrocortisone cream there; I had been afraid to use something that close to the eye.
I've been diagnosed with perioral dermatitis. I've dealt with it on and off for two years and was under the care of a dermatologist at UVA for it (teaching hospital).
"No hydrocortisone cream" is right.
Mine has been exacerbated significantly by using a cleanser with one of my allergens: chamomile.
Using an antibiotic has taken care of it (but it comes back after a while but I don't take the antibiotic per directions because it gives me reflux). I am supposed to take it twice a day, but I tend to take it once a day. Also there are restrictions with dairy consumption before and after taking it.
I also get it in my forehead, just above my nose.
Basically, when I have a flareup I take my antibiotic. My derm, whom I've not seen since May, thought if I just followed the course if antibiotics correctly it'd totally go away. I need to find a doctor in my new town.
Mine is not crusty at all. It looks like acne. Back when I was using that cleanser with chamomile it looked like a zit that never ever went away.
Uh oh... I have been switching to natural and organic products over the last year. I do not wear makeup on a regular basis, but I do on occasion and did wear some over the holidays. Wouldn't I react to that more immediately? I haven't applied anything except concealer recently. I wish it was "cheap drugstaw makeup" because it would be less painful to toss if it turns out to be at fault. (Was Fran Drescher the one on Friends or the one on the Nanny? lol). For cleansers, lotions/creams and sunscreen I've been using Green Beaver products. Other than that I've tried Neem cream but I can't remember the brand. I don't use that one often because I think it smells disgusting.
I'm not thrilled with the idea of going back to a product with synthetic chemical ingredients, but the DML has high reviews everywhere I looked, which is enough to make me consider it. I do occasionally use Glaxal Base Cream on my legs and arms because they are so dry and scaly, itchy and gross. I wonder if they are similar, since I happen to have a tub of that on hand already. I don't like it on my face though, it feels very heavy and greasy. The DML reviews say it does not do that -- what does your daughter think GP? Maybe I should try to find a place that will ship to Canada and order it anyway.
Do you know why it is no to hydrocortisone, Macabre? I really do not want a long term antibiotic, or even a short term one if I can avoid it. That'll cause other issues and I have too many issues to deal with already. I think my eyebrow spots might be different than what is around my mouth and nose but I'm not sure. I'm tempted to try the EczemaCare cream there. I also have a patch in my armpit that is driving me crazy.
I'll see if I can get a photo in good lighting so you can tell me if you think mine looks similar, if you are willing. (of my face, not the armpit I promise!) If my GP can handle it I would rather not wait 6 months to see a dermatologist.
Since DD has been using DML, I've only noticed flare-ups when she's ill. Her face has been looking a lot better otherwise.
She's not here to ask right now, but I know she doesn't like using heavy creams on her face --- they tend to look greasy and feel heavy. But she really likes the DML and told me that it works better than anything else we've tried. I have to agree that it has worked well.
DD was diagnosed with ichthyosis, mainly after the dermatologist looked at her arms and legs. Scaly, itchy, really dry, with the red flares here and there. She uses AmLactin. She's been very happy with that lotion/cream. It has helped a great deal as well.
I've bought the AmLactin at Walgreens and also from amazon.
I think the 'no' to hydrocortisone on the face is because the skin is thinner and more prone to sunburn. DD was advised to use it for a short time with sunscreen and also some other prescription meds --- which I'd have to go find. She uses those meds when flared.
I couldn't get the light exactly right. With a lot of light some of the redness is washed out (I wish it would do that for real) and with less light everything blends and my whole face looks orange.
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd257/ciel_8296/IMG_0326_zps4ca7e466.jpg)
Eyebrow area is pretty good right now, mostly healed. The little red spots are where it was crusty with scabs and dry skin. The worst of it was partly underneath my eyebrow. (I'm looking strangely off to the side trying to find the button to take the picture).
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd257/ciel_8296/IMG_0328_zps175f7d6d.jpg)
Thanks GP, I'm going to give it if I can find it. Does she use the one you linked or has she also used the Forte one?
DD has the Forte stuff but I see she hasn't cracked that box open yet. When I ordered directly from the company, I went through the site and ordered 3 or 4 other DML products for her, including the Forte one.
For her face, what she uses consistently is the "Pink one" (the term the dermatologist used, lol). "DML Daily Facial Moisturizer with broad spectrum sunscreens enhanced with Avobenzone SPF 20."
The company is Person & Covey. This webpage shows "the pink one." http://www.personandcovey.com/Product.asp?CategoryID=6 (http://www.personandcovey.com/Product.asp?CategoryID=6)
Ordering from the company was the same cost as Walgreens and Amazon, FWIW.
You have beautiful eyes, BTW!
Here's the AmLactin DD uses, if you are interested in that as well:
http://www.amazon.com/AmLactin-Moisturizing-Lotion-17-6-Style/dp/B003R1BDRI/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1359221080&sr=8-6&keywords=AmLactin (http://www.amazon.com/AmLactin-Moisturizing-Lotion-17-6-Style/dp/B003R1BDRI/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1359221080&sr=8-6&keywords=AmLactin)
That one we usually get at Walgreens. I have seen it in some other stores as well. Dermatologist says it is the lactic acid in it that is needed -- I was worried that it was a milk derivative but it is not. (DD has milk allergy) I have seen some other lotions with lactic acid. This one is expensive; don't know about others.
They offer a cream and some other variations, but DD always wants this one. Her arms and legs look much better.
thanks GP.
Person and Covey won't ship to Canada, and I can't find it on the Amazon.ca site and I don't think the .com site ships to Canada either. Nor does drugstore.com, walgreens.com or cvs.com. Since I have never heard of it or seen it before, I suspect it is not available at Shoppers or Loblaws. I will keep looking and I will ask my pharmacist for suggestions.
Edit: It looks like I can order the DML products from ebeauty.ca, but not the Amlactin. I will continue to hunt for that one.
Thanks as always for all youR help GingerPye!
I do see on the person&covey home page, an email address if you need it shipped "internationally." Don't know if they consider Canada international.
I do hope you can find these products. Otherwise, I can ship them to you. I'd be more than happy to do that for you.
I'm looking at the AmLactin on the amazon page, and it says that it "ships from and sold by Daily Market." I clicked on "Daily Market" and then clicked on their shipping policies, and they say they do ship to Canada.
I should reiterate that DD had some prescribed meds (ointments) that she used initially to clear up the eczema on her face. She maintains her skin with the DML. And she resorts to the meds when she's flared. So, while these products seem to work really well for her, I don't know how they would have worked without the meds. If you want to know what the meds are, I can go look in her bathroom --- can't remember off-hand what they are. But also --- she has not had to use them for a long time now. She is using the DML consistently, a couple times a day at least.
I'm guessing with consistent use that the DML would help somewhat. But whether the DML would clear it entirely, I don't know.
Hydrocortisone makes perioral dermatitis worse. My derm told me.
I think what you have on your eyelid is different. The area around your mouth looks like PD to me. I don't have such a delineated circle, but I've seen pics of it that way.
Some people think using shampoos and conditioners (and toothpastes) with sulfates is a factor. I am using sulfate free hair products and it seems to have helped, but it's not gone away entirely.
I think you need to go to a dermatologist for it. It's not like the eczema many people deal with.
So if I had your PD, those bumps would last for several months. One may appear to get smaller but come back. It can have a little pus-like stuff in it. I could kind of pop it like a zit and the white head would go away, but the bump itself would not.
Physicians Formula make up makes a liquid concealer that helps mask red. It works very well. I haven't worn foundation since high school, and I just use a tiny dab of the PF stuff and use powder like I normally do. It helps and lasts most of the day. That may help some of the PD area.
huh. I had to look that up: http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/perioral-dermatitis (http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/perioral-dermatitis)
I hadn't heard of it. Interesting. It does say to stop all topical steroid meds.
DD's eczema is not quite like that. She had eczema-looking patches on her face - cheeks, around her mouth, up along her nose, forehead, and in her eyebrows. She would scratch at her eyebrows and even had some bare spots in her eyebrows from all that scratching. So itchy.
So yeah, you probably should try to see a dermatologist to see exactly what you are dealing with. In the meantime, you can try some different lotions --- what my DD uses or others --- to try to get some relief.
I take Doxycycline. The tablet form caused less reflux than the capsule.
For awhile M had a patch of eczema on his face that would not go away and it began to look like hand foot and mouth :hiding: daycare was alarmed! Our derm had us mixing a steroid cream with an antibiotic cream in the palm of my hand before applying. I would definitely see a derm though.... I've had so many different things on my face that look like eczema, but weren't. I forget what the most recent was- foliculitis? But the steroids made it angry. I treat it with a rosacia med.
Something new and horrible to worry about, right on schedule. :(
I'm going to call my doctor on Monday and see about getting a referral to a dermatologist. Antibiotic cream would be better, but I guess I will see what she thinks. I'm not going to buy or try any products until after she has had a look. I'm already on Omeprazole twice daily for reflux, I'd really rather not poke that particular beast if you know what I mean. And I am already facing antibiotics + antifungals for chronic sinusitis that just won't go away.
So far the little blisters don't look like what I would think of as acne. So far there has only been clear fluid. So far.
I've got that, too. :)
I am a physician. I was on here to read about school accomodations and I saw this thread. There is so much misinformation on this thread that I decided to post. I normally don`t give medical advice out on the internet. For the photo that was posted on this thread, your skin around your mouth and nose would be 90% better in a few of days with muciprocin ointment. There is no need for oral antibiotics for mild skin infections. Most will clear well with topical antibiotics and you avoid the systemic side effects. Most atopic dermatitis or eczema that is chronic clears almost completely with topical antibiotics, even if there is no blatant skin infection. The lesions in the photo would test positive if cultured. I will come back and delete this at some point, but I was cringing every time I read the misinformation on this thread (and some others on this board).
Thank you, I will ask my doctor for her opinion about muciprocin ointment. I'm assuming that is a topical antibiotic. I'm not sure I can understand what you are highlighting as misinformation though without specific examples. Also, do you mean test positive for a bacterial infection, or something else? Thanks
It was very clearly stated that the OP should see a dermatologist to see what she's dealing with. Posters in this thread are simply sharing experiences that we've had and possible OTC lotions that might provide some relief (and yes, meds that have been prescribed for them and their eczema). But still, it was clearly stated that the OP should see a dermatologist for a diagnosis of her particular problem.
ciel, I'm glad you are getting a referral to a dermatologist. Hope you can get in soon.
My personal experience only: I have also had peri-oral dermatitis. Ceil, this and eczema are not the same. I had to take an oral antibiotic under the care of a dermatologist, after trying topical antibiotics. Prescibed topical antibiotic ointment. I was breastfeeding at the time, so could not use the particular antibiotic needed until ds weaned.
So, you may have 2 different conditions going on on your face. I would see a doctor.
Read this about mupirocin. I am not sure if it is prescriptive, so I would check with a doctor before using it indiscriminately.
"It is suggested, however, that mupirocin cannot be used for extended periods of time, or indiscriminately, as resistance does develop, and could, if it becomes widespread, destroy mupirocin's value as a treatment for MRSA. It may also result in overgrowth of non-susceptible organisms."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mupirocin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mupirocin)
Yes, absolutely. I don't plan on doing anything until I see my doctor. I will call to make an appointment tomorrow and hopefully will be able to see her in the coming week to get her opinion and a referral. Until then I'm just waiting it out.
Quote from: Visitor on January 26, 2013, 08:03:36 PM
I am a physician.
This is the Internet.
I want to remind everyone who reads this forum, unless someone proves they are a doctor/lawyer/fill-in-the-blank, it is much safer to assume they are not.
Quote from: becca on January 27, 2013, 01:44:49 PM
Read this about mupirocin. I am not sure if it is prescriptive, so I would check with a doctor before using it indiscriminately.
"It is suggested, however, that mupirocin cannot be used for extended periods of time, or indiscriminately, as resistance does develop, and could, if it becomes widespread, destroy mupirocin's value as a treatment for MRSA. It may also result in overgrowth of non-susceptible organisms."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mupirocin
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mupirocin)
I didn`t suggest using it indiscriminately. I suggested using it for a few days. Any antibiotic can cause bacterial resistance. The longer it is used, the more likely it will cause resistance. Wikipedia isn`t saying anything particularly profound. However, the lesions in the photo that was posted would probably be 90% gone in a few days with muciprocin. And since it is prescription, of course she would have to see her physician to get treated with muciprocin. With all the non-medical people giving misinformation on this thread, I just thought I would post some correct information. A lot of general doctors don`t realize how often eczema or atopic dermatitis is secondarily infected. It is not alway obvious until you treat with topical antibiotics instead of topical antiinflamatories and it clears.
Quote from: Visitor on January 27, 2013, 07:50:09 PM
Quote from: becca on January 27, 2013, 01:44:49 PM
Read this about mupirocin. I am not sure if it is prescriptive, so I would check with a doctor before using it indiscriminately.
"It is suggested, however, that mupirocin cannot be used for extended periods of time, or indiscriminately, as resistance does develop, and could, if it becomes widespread, destroy mupirocin's value as a treatment for MRSA. It may also result in overgrowth of non-susceptible organisms."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mupirocin
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mupirocin)
I didn`t suggest using it indiscriminately. I suggested using it for a few days. Any antibiotic can cause bacterial resistance. The longer it is used, the more likely it will cause resistance. Wikipedia isn`t saying anything particularly profound. However, the lesions in the photo that was posted would probably be 90% gone in a few days with muciprocin. And since it is prescription, of course she would have to see her physician to get treated with muciprocin. With all the non-medical people giving misinformation on this thread, I just thought I would post some correct information. A lot of general doctors don`t realize how often eczema or atopic dermatitis is secondarily infected. It is not alway obvious until you treat with topical antibiotics instead of topical antiinflamatories and it clears.
First of all, there is no need to be condescending with your comments about so much mis-information.
Second, I agree, no one should take medical advice here because someone says they are a physician.
Third, even if your information is correct, are you really suggesting that she go to her MD and tell them that someone who posted as a guest on an internet forum and claims to be a physician says she should be prescribed Mupirocin? I'm sure that will go over well.
Quote from: Ciel on January 27, 2013, 03:05:18 PM
Yes, absolutely. I don't plan on doing anything until I see my doctor. I will call to make an appointment tomorrow and hopefully will be able to see her in the coming week to get her opinion and a referral. Until then I'm just waiting it out.
Really smart.
All kinds of conditions can
look remarkably similar. I hope that your doc can get you in with a dermatology referral quickly. Your pics look really uncomfortable-- and WHY is this stuff always on the FACE? (Ugh)
Add us to the list of people who
mis-treated conditions with over-the-counter (and prescription) products for an embarrassingly long period of time before getting an accurate diagnosis and the appropriate treatment. It's MUCH better to not treat fungal conditions with antibiotics or rosacea creams, by the way. Just noting that. <sigh>
Florasone cream works really well....if you're not allergic to soy. Here's the link:
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009EIN2O/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0009EIN2O&linkCode=as2&tag=mayashap-20 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009EIN2O/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B0009EIN2O&linkCode=as2&tag=mayashap-20)">
I am forced to use Elocon Cream even though it is a mild steroid. I get my rashes on my face from soy derivatives which are so hard to avoid. :-/
I hope this helps you! :grouphug:
I'm assuming our physician here means mupirocin, not muciprocin (sic).
So today it looks better but also appears to be spreading. By better I mean it is no longer bright red and is generally dry and flaky and looking more like traditional eczema. Except now I think I understand what you mean about it looking like acne; new spots keep showing up all over my face, not just near the mouth. Most of it is still around my mouth and nose but there are random tiny red spots on both cheeks and near one eye. They have the same clear fluid and look exactly as the other spots looked before they multiplied and merged. I don't have a doctor's appt until next week so I really hope it doesn't get much worse before next Tuesday.
Thanks for sharing your personal experiences and for your kind suggestions!
Last week I saw my GP and she did confirm perioral dermatitis but she did not give me a referral to a dermatologist. She prescribed hydrocortisone cream with instructions to 'use sparingly' and to stop if it made things worse. I am wary to try as it has already been getting worse all on its own. With my history she did not want to put me on a long term antibiotic because she feels right now that the risk is greater than the potential benefit. Which translates to what? Just live with it? Forever? I don't like that option.
I was able to track down the Canadian distributer for Person & Covey. They are called Seaford Pharmaceuticals and are based in Mississauga (www.seaford.ca (http://www.seaford.ca)). The rep I spoke with said they do not have enough demand for the products to sell to whole sellers so the only way to buy it is to order directly from their company, either online or* by phone.
*Of course I wanted to think about it more so planned to order online if I decide to order at all. Except it is nowhere to be found in the products list. I don't know if it will be the same scenario for telephone orders.
Ciel,
You've had lots of different suggestions and seen your doctor.....I wanted to add my 2 cents.
A few years ago, DD had horrible eczema on her face that would not clear for anything! The allergist put her on Elidel which is very strong and I hesitated to use it. After 7 days her skin was so much better but I wanted her off.
The doctor suggested having hydro-cortisol cream and acid mantle cream compounded. The pharmacy would do it but our insurance would not pay. It was going to cost me $150! So I said to the pharmacist, so if I take a small amount of hydro-cortisol cream and a small amount of acid mantle cream and mix it in my palm and apply it will be the same thing? $18 dollars later that is what we did.
Since then, acid mantle cream has become a staple for DD. As soon as any eczema starts on her face she just uses that and for her, it works. She does not mix it with hydro-cortisone. It works for her by itself.
She also uses it when sunscreen or cholorine bothers her skin. She will rinse off in the shower and spread it on for instant relief and no eczema later.
Acid mantle cream is not a steroid. It works by changing the ph of your skin. You do not need a $50.00 tub. A small tube is a good place to start. I have bought it at CVS, Walgreens and Walmart and when not in stock, they just order it.
I don't know if this product will help you, perhaps your doctor can give you an opinion.
We are in the US.
Thank you PurpleCat, I hadn't heard of acid mantle cream. I am off now to do some further reading about it.
Is there a brand name or something for this acid mantle cream? What should I look for at Walgreens? I'd like DD to try this.
DD also has Elidel cream for her face from her dermatologist, but she doesn't use it. Don't know why.
Quote from: GingerPye on February 11, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
Is there a brand name or something for this acid mantle cream? What should I look for at Walgreens? I'd like DD to try this.
Last time I bought it was at CVS and it was called AMantle Cream. Let me grab the box. Lets see, 1 oz tube, made by Pharma Derm (www.pharmaderm.com (http://www.pharmaderm.com)). I've also seen it on Amazon.com - they sell everything! At any store you need to ask the pharmacist. Most of them keep it in the pharmacy section because they use it for compounding.
DD also has Elidel cream for her face from her dermatologist, but she doesn't use it. Don't know why.
Does it make you nervous when your DD does use it? I don't like that the area you put it on should have limited sun exposure...my DD is a kid who loves outside! I worry about the not proven cancer risks with using it.
On the other hand it is very effective and does not take long.
Does your DD not like that it burns a bit when she puts it on? My DD does not like that part.
I think she used the Elidel when she first got it, to get rid of the worst of the eczema. Since then I think she has maintained with the DML. I have reminded her to use the sunscreen with it -- but DML has sunscreen in it.
my ds used to use acid mantle. worked well for him. i havent seen it for a long time though. We rotate around a lot. cera ve, vanicream, some vaseline clinical strength cream etc.
He always has best results with a steriod cream that is cream based, not petroleum. We never used it on the face though
I had some success with Aquaphor by Eucerin. It is petroleum based and full of other bad, chemical stuff, but it did seem to work for a while. Once the worst of it cleared up I switched to Eucerin Replenishing Face Creme (5% Urea), which is also full of synthetic chemicals that I would prefer to avoid. Both are readily available at Shoppers here in Canada. I have been attempting to use pure coconut oil as a cleanser/moisturizer the last few weeks and wouldn't ya know, the eczema is flaring up again. Sigh. My doctor prescribed a mild hydrocortisone creme (1%), which didn't do anything for me last time. So maybe the Urea is the key for me rather than the hydrocortisone. Or maybe it was coincidence. I just wanted to share in case it might possibly help anyone else dealing with this unhappy condition.
Interesting. Does the Aquaphor have the urea in it also?
Urea as in pee? :misspeak: If so, whose pee? Yuck!
no --- in this case it is a substance that is produced synthetically. (yeah, I looked it up)
Yeah, synthetic, phew. This is the one I have been using: http://www.eucerin.ca/en/Products/Details/replenishing-face-creme-with-5-urea/?ingredients=1 (http://www.eucerin.ca/en/Products/Details/replenishing-face-creme-with-5-urea/?ingredients=1)
I don't see urea listed on the Aquaphor. I don't like that one as much as the other one - looks like I globbed greasy goo on my face and left it there. I guess I did do that, actually. I use sparingly and at night, but I will say that it was fantastic for healing my ugly, chapped lips. Sadly it didn't improve the rest of my ugly, chapped face.
Off topic, but Premarin is made from horses' urine.
Aquaphor is good, but yeah, it's greasy gooey stuff. We like Vanicream for that reason. I'll need to look for the Eucerin for my DS. Since he's turned 13, he's been fighting eczema on the face, and he's not been my eczema kid. He won't use DD's DML --- too pink, I guess, LOL.
my son's eczema on his hands is bad again.
Totally baffling. every time he starts baseball and basketball, his hands do a full peel. this has happened the last couple of years. this year, he did hockey and had no problem. as soon as baseball started, it happened. now, they are done peeling, but they are sore, raw etc.
Tonight i went to whole body and the lady recommended putting liquid probiotic on his hands and then drinking the remainder of the bottle. Has anyone heard of this?
i know it isn't going to hurt to try, but in all the years i've dealt with his eczema, first time I've heard this.
I've heard of probiotics being used in eczema, but have no idea how effective they are. Plus, not all probiotics are the same, so it's hard to know what your DS actually needs.
Maybe it's the time of the year, and not the specific activities? I know DS's eczema flares when his seasonal allergies are bad or when he's sick. Mine just flares at random.
BTW, what is Whole Body? Is that a division of Whole Foods?
Forgot to ask - have you tried Omega 3's? Can't remember - is DS allergic to fish?
Both of my kids are "eczema-ed" for the last few weeks --- worse than usual. I assume their allergy cup is too full due to spring allergies. However, if they are religious about putting stuff on at least twice a day, it keeps it down to a low roar. Cannot get DS to do what he needs to do, so he is looking red, dry, and peel-y.
Bleach baths are supposed to be a really good way to calm it down. I cannot get my kids to do it, but every time we go swimming their skin is wonderful for the days afterwards.
its just weird with the peeling not sure if it is the gloves but if it was gloves, he'd only peel on one hand...does wear two batting gloves though. but, didn't happen in hockey, but always happens in basketball (same season)
we've done the omegas and it helped when he was little. he takes a supplement still. IDK
Quote from: GoingNuts on May 18, 2013, 08:48:13 AM
Forgot to ask - have you tried Omega 3's? Can't remember - is DS allergic to fish?
Even if he is, flax is an equally good source of Omega-3. Walnuts, if he can have them, also are high in omega-3. Not as high, but also containing omega-3 are several green leafy vegetables (broccoli, kale, and some others).
Have things cleared up for your son, mfamom?
I was clear for a while but majorly flared up for the last almost-two-weeks. It does seem to fit with perioral dermatitis and my GP diagnosed it as such back when it first started, but it is such a mess right now that I have some doubt. For those that have experienced this type of dermatitis: did you find that it stayed in a specific area (like mouth/nose or under eyebrows)? Or did it spread all over? This time for me it started around my nose, in the creased parts where the nose meets the cheeks, on both sides. It quickly spread onto and around my nose and then continued to spread, particularly on the right side of my face, down above and beneath my mouth, out from my nose to my ear, and up all the way up under my eyebrows and up to my forehead and into my hairline. My left ear even has a few blisters. My face is flaking/peeling, dry, crusty and quite red in patches. Hurts a bit too. I'm not sure what to do at this point, I don't think antibiotics are a good option and will just cause more issues in the end. I've tried coconut oil, and a homeopathic creme with calendula, neem and turmeric. Can anyone suggest anything else that has worked for you in the past? I'm going to try fermented cod live oil for the omega3 supplement that going nuts and mookie suggested.
I was on prednisone for 7 days (finished Aug. 5th) and noticed the rash starting 10 days later; so the steroid can be a possible trigger from what I've read. Maybe while it was clearing out of my system? I also received 3 nebulizer masks w/steroid meds at the ER and was also instructed to increase my regular meds until the 5th. I think the first time was shortly after taking antibiotics, and the 2nd was more like a second wave to the first flare up. Unfortunately these observations aren't really helping me figure anything out.
Yes, as I said earlier, steroids make it worse.
Mine did move, though it has it's fave spots.
My dermatologist prescribed doxycycline. It's the only thing that I have tried that works.
Thanks for your reply. I apologize for my poor memory, I think I misunderstood and thought it was steroid creme that could make it worse. I didn't think about other kinds.
I guess I have to live with it, I don't think my system can handle long term antibiotics at this time. Even a couple of my healthcare professionals are against the idea.
I have it on my legs too.
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Ciel, I don't know if I've mentioned it, but some folks say that sulfites and fluoride contribute to perioral dermatitis. I have found it helpful to use a sulfate fee shampoo.
I have read that apple cider vinegar with mother or any vinegar with mother used topically helps. I am trying that right now. Started yesterday. Egads it smells.
I am going through a flare right now--for the last week and a half I think. This was taken a week ago. It's much worse now and has started to go to an eyebrow.
Hmmm. It will not upload. But here is one i just took--but I have coverup makeup over it. It really is much redder.
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I use Carmex before bed every night, but for the last two to three weeks I've been out, so I used a Burt's Bees pomegranate lip balm. I used it last winter, too. I was wondering about a possible connexion, so I looked at the ingredients online.
I did not see chamomile (I'm allergic to it). But I did see something that looked like cinnamon to me. Cinnamon really bothers me. If I am sitting next to someone chewing cinnamon gum or have it myself, my stomach starts to burn.
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Well, guess what?
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I had some very bad perioral dermatitis a few years ago and then noticed the Neuteogena cleanser that I used daily in the shower now had chamomile. I threw it away, and my perioral dermatitis went away.
I'm hoping between the apple cider vinegar and not using that lip balm anymore mine disappears fast.
Interesting. I hope the ACV helps!
I will try to post a photo tomorrow...I guess it can look different per the individual, but I'm still not sure that mine is the same. I'm not allergic to chamomile but maybe something else; except I can't think of what that could be because my shampoo is a mixture of Dr. Bronners pure unscented castile soap, avocado or olive oil, and water...I rinse with apple cider vinegar diluted with water, and I use coconut or olive oil on my skin for the most part. Unless it is something I am ingesting like food or meds, or something mysterious that gets on my skin unintentionally, or .. or .. or .. it could be anything. I know for me steroids seem to be a major trigger - like prednisone but hopefully not my inhaler. I do use Burt's Bees honey lip balm, have been using it for years but I will check anyway.
Mine is much better right now, just a little bit of redness or blisters around my nose. I had to take a course of antibiotics for a double ear infection a few weeks ago and I concede that it probably was a factor in the improvement (although it was keflex). I hope yours clears up quickly - crossing my fingers for you!
Have you noticed any improvement yet? Hopefully...
I have a photo that I will post briefly in OT/V&D. Let me know if you think we are dealing with the same thing.
my ds has a new cream for eczema which is a prescription. its called Hylatopic Plus. Its really nice cream. His arms and legs were very dry last visit to derm and he prescribed it. Has anyone tried it?
No, but I'll be very interested to know how it works for him. I've got two kiddos with eczema now. DS is peeling and itchy and has patches on his face that he scratches til bleeding. Ugh. DD takes better care of her skin but still has a lot of peeling on her face right now.
He's been using it awhile. he loves it. I noticed how nice it is the past few weeks since I've had to apply it for him.
it is heavy, but not in a way like eucerine or aquaphor where it is goopy. it made my hands very soft!
What is in it that makes it prescription?
ooh, I have no idea! Its expensive though. I have very good insurance and ended up only paying maybe $15 for it, but the dr warned me and gave a coupon when he prescribed it.
Ingredients:
water, glycerin, ethlhexyl palmitate, cetearayl alcohol, propylene glycol, dicetyl phosphate, petrolatum, theobroma grandiflorum seed butter, dimethicone, ceteraeth 10 phosphate, steareth 10, phenoxyethanol, hydroxypropyl bispalmitamide, MEA (ceramide, tocopheryl acetate, sodium hyaluronate, disodium EDTA and Sodium Hydroxide