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Title: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on December 29, 2013, 03:12:10 AM
My son wants to try making sushi. Is Eden still considered safe? Or is there another brand that is? I can order them online if needed. Need the sheets of nori and the rice vinegar for making the rice part.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: PurpleCat on December 29, 2013, 06:53:35 AM
Jessica, there is a safe one and Whole Foods was selling it about 2 years ago. DD was having Sushi at a party and I brought Nori, a rolling mat and tools for her. I can not remember the brand but a call to Whole Foods might help.
I use Nakano Rice Vinegar all the time that I can buy at any grocery store. My DD has multiple allergies.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on December 29, 2013, 10:21:15 AM
Yama Moto Yama for nori. Marukan for sushisu (seasoned rice vinegar). If you buy unseasoned rice vinegar make sure to put the right portion of sugar and salt in for sushi making. You should be be able to buy it at any Japanese or Korean owned market or possibly regular grocery store. Not too many Chinese or SE Asian markets will have the preferred brands.
For temaki (hand roll) you don't need a mat, only for norimaki (nori rolls) or any other ~maki (roll). I don't always use a mat even for rolls. Have him watch some Youtube vids for technique like making sure the filling and roll is tight, having a wet cloth for cutting, small bowl of vinegar/salted water for hands to avoid 'rice mittens'.
Hanamikai is in April. BYOB bring your own bento. ヽ(=´▽`=)ﾉ
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: CMdeux on December 29, 2013, 10:40:30 AM
^ :heart: :heart:
That's the same set of brands we use.
Oh-- and once you open a package of Nori, be sure to reseal in a freezer bag for storage, as it will otherwise go stale in a hurry. Also-- leave the dessicant packet in with it.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on December 29, 2013, 10:54:55 AM
Oh, I noted to myself a month or two ago that Hormel Natural Honey Deli Ham would make the perfect surimi substitute.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on December 29, 2013, 11:56:15 AM
Thanks everyone-I'll start looking online. We have no whole foods and no ethnic stores here so my choices are regular grocery stores and internet. He just wants to make kappa maki so all we need for the filling is cucumber.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on December 29, 2013, 12:01:57 PM
Uwajimaya or Amazon. I trust the former more than the latter for warehousing to avoid third party merchant. For better or worse I've been to every single Uwajimaya location but I'm very sure it's gonna ship from Washington. They're good I've shipped hard to find perishables from them across the country before as well.
Third choice is CM or I send to you. Bonus there is we can also send Guittard stocked by our local stores. I'm gimped for next 24 hours but should be ok after.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on December 29, 2013, 12:08:25 PM
I can't figure out how to order from uwajimaya. Sometimes it would be nice to live in an area with some actual stores. I'll get a list and let you know-maybe a food fairy is what i need right now. :) I'll at least check local stores for the sushisu first (and maybe even the nori-maybe they'll surprise me).
I should have paid attention when my mom used to make this stuff. :D
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on December 29, 2013, 12:14:52 PM
For nuts I would use about any brand of sushisu Mizkan/mitsukan, Kikkoman, Marukan, etc. Same for nori *in sheets*. Obviously not in furikake or arare/senbei all bets are off there. Most of the seaweed is farmed in China/Japan seas then processed in Japanese factory. I'm just brand loyal. Like will I eat Yamasa? Yes, but Kikkoman is what I grew up with.
I can throw in some botan ame for you too. Here it's in regular grocery store.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on December 29, 2013, 12:31:48 PM
Do you consider botan ame safe? I buy myself some limited things at a japanese grocery that's about an hour away. I usually buy natto there, so I only go if we're going straight home (although dh is sure nothing worse could happen to natto). I buy yokan too (none with chestnut) and my mom sends me instant (horrors) zenzai, premade curry rice packets, and umeboshi and regular ochazuke on a regular basis. I don't let dd try any of this though.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on December 29, 2013, 12:56:35 PM
I'd let DS1 eat botan ame and probably ochazuke, because those are pretty set standards. Natto no one but us moms and grandmas are going to eat kinda like umeboshi.
Yokan... I'd be a little concerned only because it crosses the dessert line and while peanuts aren't native to cuisine it's sure become a welcomed addition to desserts, too welcomed. Although plain packaged US made Japanese style daifuku would be worth looking in to. Def not Taiwan or Chinese spin on mochi dessert it's almost always peanut.
Curry is one I only trust homemade. One brand is thickened with PB. The instant packets you're using are a different brand.
But before any of those packaged items there's so many other things to try that would be more under home control like oyakodon, sukiyaki, tempura, zarusoba. I think memmi would be safe for pa tna and that's the mother sauce.
Hey, hit your mom up for Yama Moto Yama and Marukan. She'll get so excited the grandkids are into it.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on December 29, 2013, 01:06:11 PM
LOL. That would get her excited for sure. Unfortunately she would insist on subbing her own favorite brands. She does not get it when it comes to dd's allergies.
The curry is S&B brand. I know House brand is not safe. I honestly prefer my mom's made-from-scratch curry rice but I'm not that ambitious and I know my kids wouldn't like the flavor anyway. Same with zenzai. I can make it from the dry beans but my kids don't like it and I questioned the safety of the shiratama (I use this brand for myself http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1021/645107680_68ec00a161.jpg ) so I don't bother.
I'd love a recipe for oyakodon. That was one of my favorites as a kid but danged if I can remember how my mom made it. I only remember eggs, onions and chicken and since I didn't like onions then she somehow made it without them but still managed to get the sauce going. She always complained though, saying the onions were what made the sauce. Zarusoba too. Do you trust any brand of noodles for those or just certain ones?
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on December 29, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
LOL. That would get her excited for sure. Unfortunately she would insist on subbing her own favorite brands. She does not get it when it comes to dd's allergies.
Dude. I so, SO know what you mean. I took a chance yours wasn't like mine but, they are what they are.
I'll find and post the oyakodon. Nummy.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: CMdeux on December 29, 2013, 08:52:02 PM
The noodle brand that we use is Australian, I think, Jessica.
They even make a matcha soba.... {swoon}
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on December 29, 2013, 11:54:22 PM
Australian is the name of the brand?
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: CMdeux on December 30, 2013, 11:14:24 AM
No-- country of origin. Can't think of the name at the moment. Let me see if I have a package.
The noodle brand is Hakubaku and the parent company is Kokumotsu.
I have not called on them-- but they do seem to have quite good allergen labeling, noting shared lines and facilities on packaging, (even for buckwheat and wheat).
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on December 30, 2013, 12:55:46 PM
awesome-thanks. :)
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on March 11, 2014, 02:14:41 AM
Is this seasoned rice vinegar the same as rice wine vinegar? I just saw a couple of recipes I'd like to try that both call for rice wine vinegar. Or is there a substitute that is both easy to find and safe?
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: CMdeux on March 11, 2014, 08:46:54 AM
Aji Mirin isn't quite the same thing as "rice wine vinegar" because it is seasoned/salted.
Unfortunately, many recipes call for the latter and MEAN the former. You just kind of have to look at what else is in them-- if there are no other seasonings, then it might mean Aji Mirin.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on March 11, 2014, 11:14:49 AM
Mirin isn't sake, it's sweeter and lower alcohol content. Cooking sake is similar to drinking sake in alcohol content but it's high salt content to be sold as a seasoning/condiment rather than its beverage counterpart. Aji mrin has very little sake content, it has a lot of sugar, some salt and some vinegar, it's the commercial bottled stuff in most mom's kitchen (the 'fake' mirin). Hon mirin is the real stuff if you need for 'cuisine' it's a true brewed naturally sweeter alcohol from fermented rice.
Su is rice vinegar. Sushisu is rice vinegar sweetened with sugar and salted. No alcohol content unless you're drinkin' separately. Get your shochu on. Yee-haw.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on March 11, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
The English translations don't work that's why.
Kikkoman Rice Vinegar (not seasoned sushi, just plain) Aji-mirin (don't worry about the 'real' hon mirin)
No one who puts up pictures of chopsticks sticking up in a bowl of rice is worried about hon mirin. just get the Kikkoman plain rice vinegar and aji mirin.
(http://sleewee.com/images/chop-sticks.gif)
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: CMdeux on March 11, 2014, 02:44:32 PM
{snicker}
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on March 11, 2014, 06:44:27 PM
etiquette. :P
So anyway I'll look for those. If I can't find them locally I'll see if I can find them online. My son is not interested in the sushi for the moment so we haven't even tried that yet.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on March 11, 2014, 06:46:11 PM
Ever think you should have listened when your mom was trying to teach you? I am thinking that now... ;D
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on March 11, 2014, 06:55:33 PM
I'm sure CMdeux or I can help with that and Guittard while we're at it. I can mail it on Monday. Shoot me a list if that time frame works for you. I suspect one of the locally owned Korean grocery store is zainichi-owned. They tend to have the huge packs of Yama Moto Yama nori packs for Japanese domestic market (like Costco sized in resealable bag). I can throw in some Choco Pie or Calpis if you're fiending for it. They only have Korean brand daifuku, I think.
Guittard is really everywhere here. I might have to track down the bars again but it's chips galore for cheap.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on April 12, 2014, 12:14:31 PM
Now that I have my ingredients-do I just use the seasoned rice vinegar plus rice? Do I need to add sugar and/or salt to the rice vinegar (it shows that it's in the ingredients but the recipes I'm finding are adding more-IF it's the same product which I think it is). Is there a certain ratio? It doesn't say on the bottle. Why doesn't marukan have a recipe for this on their website?
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on April 12, 2014, 12:33:34 PM
Yes, it's the seasoned one. You add about 1/4 cup per something like 6 cups cooked rice adjusting for taste. Do it while the rice is really hot, keep turning it with the paddle and fan it to cool and wick away the extra moisture from the added vinegar. It'll get a little shiny. You can wait until it cools down to warm to work with it.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: Jessica on April 12, 2014, 01:55:33 PM
awesome-thanks! I called my mom to ask and no surprise, she said I need to use the powdered kind instead and she will send it to me. ugh. I told her not to send it, I already have this kind. She just does not get it.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on April 12, 2014, 02:35:36 PM
:hiding: I prefer the powdered Tamanoi sushinoko as well but it's not as straightforward on ingredients. You can do either it's the same stuff same effect. Vinegar, sugar, salt. Goin' down the same hatch. lol.
Title: Re: Nori sheets and rice vinegar for sushi making - need them safe for pa and tna.
Post by: twinturbo on April 13, 2014, 04:42:18 PM