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Title: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: AdminCM on September 02, 2011, 11:20:39 AM
help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them

This information may be useful to those introducing BAKED MILK after a challenge.  Please DO NOT try such a challenge without a physician's guidance!!!
Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 03:52:18 PM
Posted: 02.23.2010 at 09:51:57


Yep you read that right. We have been successfully adding baked dairy into D's diet per the allergist's recommendations.
 
We are stuck in a rut with cheeze-its. That's the top thing he will eat right now other than cakes/brownies that I make (and I don't bake much).
 
What are some things that have dairy cooked in them? It has been so long that I now have to go re-read packages FOR dairy.
 
He can't do anything with uncooked dairy, or dairy that hasn't been cooked for a long time. And powdered cheese is out (like doritos). Sometimes it is hit or miss- things that are cooked for just 17 min that I've baked don't work, but things that are cooked for 22min are ok. And we've found a few things that have dairy or dairy derivatives towards the end of the ingredient list that will work too.
 
Some hot dogs have dairy, right? That might be processed enough.
 

Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 03:53:08 PM
GingerPye
Moderator
Posted: 02.23.2010 at 10:20:16


Some lunch meats do, too. And some breads and crackers. How about making your own muffins etc. with milk?
 
I think I have missed the thread where you talked about this. How did you know to start doing baked milk?

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DS, 12 - MA/EA/PA/env./asthma
DH - adult-onset asthma
me - env. allergies, exhaustion, & mental collapse
Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 03:53:55 PM
TwoDDs
Member
Posted: 02.23.2010 at 10:22:48


You mean store bought/prepared, right?

Goldfish crackers, butter snap pretzels - we stick basically to the snack aisle for prepareds (we're still avoiding egg), but since you bake some - there are a lot more mixes available to you - corn bread, muffins.
 
How about using bread crumbs when you bake a main dish?

Good news - hope it continues to go well.
 

Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 03:54:35 PM
Posted: 02.23.2010 at 11:22:20


Yes, I mean store bought with dairy in them. I didn't think about breadcrumbs- that might work. Not sure if it is enough dairy though. KWIM?
 
Ginger, I posted in Main back in the fall. Went down to Hopkins for a 2nd opinion about our "failed" egg challenge here in Philly (which was clearly a pass to anyone on the planet but our allergist). The allergist at Hopkins (Dr Schuberth) looked at everything (D's prior history of outgrowing, his rast #'s his total IgE #'s, etc). He agreed with me that the egg was a pass, and that there was a good shot at a baked dairy pass also.
 
So we booked an appt in his Lutherville, MD office for back in the fall to do the baked dairy challenge. I made a cake with a can of sweetened condensed milk in it. Schuberth calculated out the amount of protein from the milk in the section of cake that ds ate- it was equal to one or two cheese slices. I forget exactly?
 
Ds was totally fine with the baked dairy that day- no reaction. We've been doing this ever since.
 
What I need to find is things with dairy in them that don't LOOK like they have dairy in them. I want to try them at home with ds and then when they are a pass, I can start sending them in his lunches. We run out of time during the day to squeeze in the cheezeits sometimes.
 
The school would FLIP OUT if I tarted sending in cheeze-its because it would confuse the other students (we have a food list for snacktime that I don't want undermined by this since he still can't totally have dairy) so I'm looking for things that an average Joe wouldn't recognize as something with dairy in it.
 

Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 03:55:08 PM
TwoDDs
Member
Posted: 02.23.2010 at 12:34:16


How about cookies, then? Nilla wafers could be mistaken for the Walmart brand that are milk free.
 
Or chicken nuggets - most have milk, but you've perhaps sent the Tyson's brand with him before?
 
Doesn't one of the Teddy graham cookies have milk - maybe the "chocolaty chip?"
 

Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 03:56:14 PM
my3guys
Member
Posted: 02.23.2010 at 12:38:03


Here's what we've found so far (avoiding egg and soy protein)and coconut:

Original, Chocolate, Pretzel goldfish

Keebler Vanilla Wafers

There are other keebler cookies, but ds seemed to have a problem due to coconut possibly
 
Nabisco Gripz mini cookies

Nabisco Fig Newtons

Kellogg Nutri-Grain Bars (just started....ate 1/2 one and wasn't sure)

I'll think if we have more.

Oh, also some breads, which I can't think of the brand name...maybe Pepperidge Farm hot dog/hamburg rolls.
 
Edited: Changed the brand of nutri-grain bars


« Last Edited by my3guys 02.23.2010 at 02:27:49 »


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Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 03:56:44 PM
Posted: 02.23.2010 at 01:29:42


Teddy Grahams don't have milk. Not even the choco chip ones.

Nutri-grain bars are a great idea, as are the fig newtons!


Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 03:57:29 PM
my3guys
Member
Posted: 02.23.2010 at 02:04:03


Just check the Nutri-grain bars...some have more milk in them than others. Some have cheese flavors, we haven't tried those.


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Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 03:57:58 PM
Posted: 02.26.2010 at 09:08:00


Thanks for the replies! I bought the nutri-grain bars. He hasn't touched them yet, but he ate at least 8 strawberry Newtons yesterday and some butter snap pretzels this morning.


Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 04:03:53 PM
GingerPye
Moderator
Posted: 02.26.2010 at 09:13:04


wow, that is amazing. Hope things continue to be so positive!


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DS, 12 - MA/EA/PA/env./asthma
DH - adult-onset asthma
me - env. allergies, exhaustion, & mental collapse
Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 04:04:21 PM
Posted: 02.26.2010 at 09:25:23


Ginger, but it is so hit or miss. The girl scout cookie (pn free facility) with dairy in it didn't work, yet the these did.
 
Sometimes I wonder how much of it is psychological too.....


Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 04:04:58 PM
GingerPye
Moderator
Posted: 02.26.2010 at 09:48:15


huh. Yeah, that is disappointing. Well, hopefully he is building up tolerance with every bite . . .


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DS, 12 - MA/EA/PA/env./asthma
DH - adult-onset asthma
me - env. allergies, exhaustion, & mental collapse
Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 04:05:39 PM
my3guys
Member
Posted: 02.26.2010 at 03:09:33


Same thing here. Very hit or miss on what works. It seems the lower the dairy is listed on the label, the better he does with it.


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1 child with chronic reflux
Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 04:06:14 PM
Carefulmom
Member
Posted: 02.26.2010 at 07:35:46


Can someone clarify something for me? Dd is on baked milk also. What do you consider not working? For example, if your child has some sneezing on the baked milk item, would you consider that to be not working, or would you keep giving it? Do you consider that it didn`t work if your child has any symptoms at all or just if your child had a lot of symptoms?
 

Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 04:07:04 PM
CMdeux
Moderator1
Posted: 02.27.2010 at 07:14:55


Our strategy (can't speak for D'smom, only us) has been to allow whatever doesn't bother DD.
 
That is, if she can TOLERATE her nose being a little runny or knowing that her lips are going to be itchy and puffy for a day or two... and she really WANTS to eat a slice of cheese anyway...
 
<shrug> we allow it.

Her tolerance seems to be a 24-48 hour 'allowance' kind of thing, though, at this point.
 
So there's probably no way that she could drink milk. The last time she tried yogurt, even, she started sneezing and her lips puffed up pretty badly-- the top one even split a little on her. She decided that four bites of yogurt just wasn't worth it...
 
Weirdly, though? She tolerates small amounts of strawberry Kefir. As others note-- quite hit and miss.
 
Because she's ten and has a lifetime of experience with allergic reactions from mild OAS all the way to grade IV anaphylaxis, we let her sort of dictate what is "okay" and what isn't. I just ask/remind her when I can see that her lips/eczema looks to be badly flared.
 
She loves pizza and cheese so much that she'll push the envelope with those. Not so much with ice cream or cookies or butter.
 
HTH.


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Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 04:08:00 PM
my3guys
Member
Posted: 02.28.2010 at 08:41:06


Ours depends on the symptom(s) and what ds wants to do and visually how he seems. He usually does not want to continue eating something once he feels symptoms (usually an itchy or hurting throat). I don't push him even though the symptoms appear mild. The good news is symptoms have never progressed past this.
 
I sometimes wonder about the psychological component too....but some foods he's fine with and others he's not, so who knows. I do want him to trust his instincts since he's proven to be anaphylactic to milk in uncooked form, so this is how we approach it.


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Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: admin rebekahc on September 18, 2011, 04:08:33 PM
Carefulmom
Member
Posted: 03.01.2010 at 12:46:17


That is really the hard part, as they get older and you want them to pay attention to symptoms, especially as they are on their own more and take more responsibility. Yet on the baked milk, if she has mild symptoms we pretty much ignore them, which is what the food allergy specialist at UCLA said to do. It is just hard to know how much symptoms is too much.
 

Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: jw on October 16, 2011, 11:56:36 PM
We've just joined the baked milk club too.  Yippee!  It is making for some confusing grocery trips now.  He can tolerate well-cooked, thin pancakes, so I can make something quicker than a full baking session at home.  Not everyone can use this option though.

Our list so far -
Goldfish crackers are by far his favorite.  I'm making it a practice right now to only buy the colored ones since none of them are flavor blasted.  DS understands he can only have Goldfish that I approve, and this is a simple way for others to make sure he has ones that are parent approved.

Chips Ahoy original cookies - the milk content is pretty low on these.  I never realized those chocolate chips weren't milk chocolate until now.

We haven't bought any, but I know from the past that one of the Tyson chicken nugget packages has milk since we always avoided that one before. 

Van de Kamp's has a new fish fillet option that has milk in the coating.  I think it was an 8 pack, 90 calorie per fillet.  DS liked them.

DS is sick at the moment, but Eggo waffles are next on our list to try.  They'd be great since DS could grab them himself.

I'm also thinking of maybe the Grands biscuits or cinnamon rolls as an occasional treat.  I sent a question to Pillsbury to ask if the whey in the rolls is in the rolls or the icing.

Are there any cereals that might fit the list?
Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: callisto on October 17, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
My daughter is doing the baked milk as well.  She eats goldfish and cheezits at home, but I never send anything to school that looks like it has milk in it.

She eats buttermilk bread fine - it is a local brand.

Mainly I cook lots of muffins and freeze them.  This website has a lot of recipes.  I often add extra milk to the batter and sometimes stir in powdered milk for extra milk protein:

http://www.muffinrecipes.net/

Most of the recipes are really easy - just mix all the ingredients together and bake.

I am currently getting up the courage to try her with pancakes - I am sure the first ones I give her will be very thin and very well cooked!
Title: Re: help me find-: things with dairy baked IN them
Post by: my3guys on August 20, 2013, 10:58:18 AM
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