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Title: Cats
Post by: SilverLining on September 09, 2013, 06:36:01 AM
DS seems to be getting more and more sensitive to cats.  It's always been bad.

The past two weekends he has visited people that have cats.  Both times he took benedryl before going.  Both times he not only ended up with red itchy eyes, stuffy nose, but also hives.

Hives from cats?  This is new for him....is it normal?

Both times he had to take more antihistamine, and still wasn't comfortable.  Came home and jumped directly into the shower.

In the spring when cats are shedding, I expect worse symptoms...but it's fall.  Does this mean spring would be worse?

Can a cat allergy cause anaphylaxis?
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: Macabre on September 09, 2013, 07:04:10 AM
Hives from cats---oh yes. And for me, asthma, swollen eyes, runny nose.  It depends on the cat, the house, and how full my enviro allergy cup is.

So I typically have several body symptoms going, but I've never thought about that as anaphylaxis. But I would say that it could get bad and need to be addressed in the same way anaphylaxis is addressed. I've had Epi for asthma many times as a child.

I've seen a medical journal article about horse allergy anaphylaxis.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: SilverLining on September 09, 2013, 07:18:09 AM
He does not have asthma.

When he was grade 5 I suspected it.  Not really definite signs, but enough for me to take him to the GP, and enough for him to say "I don't think so....but let's get him tested." Specialist said the same thing...didn't think he had asthma, but signs that meant he should be tested.  Test said no...not asthma.

Since then, the signs I was seeing are no longer there.  Maybe because we are more aware of his allergies and have been more careful about them.

~~~

Your enviro allergy cup comment makes sense.  DH was recently commenting that Ds has been coughing a lot.  He was thinking DS is catching something....but he's walking to school, and when the grass is growing so much, the mold in it is usually active too.

I want Howie's bubble.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: Macabre on September 09, 2013, 07:44:45 AM
Ragweed is bad this year.

Even before I had asthma I wheezed around cats.

FWIW cats shed dander all the time. Now dander may be more of a problem in the fall when they are shedding their summer coats and in the spring when they are shedding their winter coats, but the dander is there all the time.

I wish I didn't have a cat allergy. It really affects my social life--where I go, what I do/don't do. With my husband's job and even my job, I need to be able to go in people's homes. But I really try to avoid that if they have animals--especially cats. The routine of cleaning me, my clothes, my car is a big deal.

We have leather seats in our cars for this reason. We have as much leather furniture as possible in our house for this reason. I have to be able to wipe off furniture if someone comes over who has a cat--after they leave of course.

I had an issue like that this weekend--itchy, swollen eyes, hives from sitting near but not on the same piece of furniture in my home from someone who had been somewhere there is a cat. This was in my home. And I didn't hug him or even shake hands.  I showered before going to bed. DH showered.

Speaking of hugging, this stupid allergy totally affects that. I have to keep hugging in mind when intel pick out clothes for church--to make sure I can easily wash it.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: twinturbo on September 09, 2013, 07:49:03 AM
It irks me when I report hearsay but wrt to possibility but, yes, I've known one kid anaphylactic to an animal's dander.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: CMdeux on September 09, 2013, 08:04:51 AM
It depends on the cat, the house, and how full my enviro allergy cup is.


I think that is probably youir answer, Silver.


It may not be that he's truly more sensitive as a global thing== just that for right now he seems to be.  Impending illness, ragweed pollen levels (which ARE exceedingly bad this year for most of y'all); that kind of thing.


I'm just sad that you can't enjoy the peculiar affections of a furry tart like the Tortoiseshell one seated next to me. 



Title: Re: Cats
Post by: Macabre on September 09, 2013, 08:08:38 AM
See, I'm not sad about that at all (like I'm not sad we can't have peanut butter either). I'm not even sad about not having another rabbit. It not having a dog. I honestly don't want to deal with another creature's poop or fur.  Really.

What makes me sad is the human social interaction that is missed.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: SilverLining on September 09, 2013, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: twinturbo on September 09, 2013, 07:49:03 AM
It irks me when I report hearsay but wrt to possibility but, yes, I've known one kid anaphylactic to an animal's dander.

I appreciate knowing.  I have always assumed the cat allergy was just a pita.  But, it's looking worse.  Looking, but as stated by someone else...not necessarily IS worse.  He did have that really severe reaction early June 2008.  His face was swollen for almost three days...went down enough that it didn't show up in the wedding pictures.

as far as I know, he's not allergic to ragweed.  But he definitely has an allergy to mold...extreme reactions to that, and grass mold is active spring and fall.  I never realized cats shed in the fall. 

Do you think people would just shave there cats for him?  They are indoor cars.  I'll knit them sweaters.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: Macabre on September 09, 2013, 10:19:55 AM
I believe cats actually shed all the time like we do and like dogs do. But they get rid of their winter/sunmer coats and there is a LOT more shedding.

But it's not the fur. It's the dander. And for some people saliva.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: CMdeux on September 09, 2013, 11:17:16 AM
 :yes:

Different cats = different amounts of Fel d1 protein, too.  Some cats seem to make almost none at all.  We've had a Maine Coon and now our older Tortie, both Med-long haired, who bother almost none of our cat-allergic friends.  The Maine Coon seems to have been almost hypoallergenic naturally.  (I don't say that lightly, either-- but we've had someone nearly as cat allergic as Mac actually IN our house for a few hours without them even noticing that we HAD a cat.)

The two younger short-haired cats DO shed considerable Fel protein, though-- they both bother our friends with cat allergy much more.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: twinturbo on September 09, 2013, 12:04:06 PM
I vote for naked cats.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: CMdeux on September 09, 2013, 12:21:58 PM
Well, that goes without saying.

But that is because I live with cats, and I understand that their very nature calls out for that kind of shaming.  They'll have deserved it for SOMETHING, after all.   ;D



(JK.  Kinda.  Not about the deserving it part... but definitely about the shaving.  Cats just don't appreciate handknits the way that they should.  Well, they don't really appreciate ANYTHING quite the way that they should, come to that... and now, we're right back to shaming...)

Title: Re: Cats
Post by: twinturbo on September 09, 2013, 12:27:30 PM
I love it when people turn their cats into angry naked satellite dishes. The look of murderous rage on them is adorable.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: rebekahc on September 09, 2013, 12:28:21 PM
Fluffy cats are always better for me allergy-wise.  The shorter and slickier the fur the worse.  I've had allergic reactions to cats that had it been peanuts, I would have epi'd.  With cats, I just leave the environment.  Once I've showered and washed clothes, etc., I'm usually ok with elevated "hayfever" type symptoms for a few days afterward.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: SilverLining on September 09, 2013, 01:00:01 PM
DS was convinced it was the colour that he was allergic to.  Black & white cat = allergic reaction.  orange cat = no reaction.  Even just a year ago, he was going to a friend's home and he said he didn't need benedryl because her cat is orange.  Guess what.  He's allergic the THAT orange cat.  It was actually a more logical thought then it may seem.  This is the same child who would vomit when he saw a specific shade of green.  Anyway, if seems fluff balls don't cause a reaction.

And MC, I know it's the dander, but I think more falls off when they are shedding.

Although...a stray cat hair lodged in ds' clothing has seemed to cause a reaction.

Title: Re: Cats
Post by: Mookie86 on September 09, 2013, 03:33:39 PM
I know someone who swells massively from cat exposure.  It's his only allergy.  Once I was around him when he had a reaction.  His whole face swelled horribly.  I didn't know about anaphylaxis then, but he told me that it had gotten bad and he'd now have his mom take him to the hospital.  IDK exactly what they did, but they probably gave him epi.  Afterwards, he was on a course of steroids. 
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: krasota on September 09, 2013, 04:49:01 PM
The fel d1 protein is in saliva and sebum . . . since they groom themselves, it sticks to every single hair, too.  And it's super sticky and gets carried everywhere by cat owners.  Your kid might need to shower immediately upon coming home (with a detour to the laundry room).  Nasal irrigation wouldn't be a bad idea.

Living in a home with a cat (hardwood floors, leather/wood furniture, cleaning lady, radiators--no ducts, cat never allowed in my room) is probably a major factor in my developing asthma.  Apparently repeat exposure to cats for those who are allergic can lead to asthma.

I can tolerate cats slightly longer when my allergy bucket isn't overfull.  Right now I'm beyond overfull with ragweed and grass and just having coffee with a catty ( :smooch:) friend at my home or a coffee shop is enough to make me break out in hives and need my inhaler.  Cats are evil that way.   :pout: I pre-medicate with antihistamines and caffeine.

Title: Re: Cats
Post by: GoingNuts on September 09, 2013, 06:16:42 PM
My DS reacts severely to dogs - hives, swelling, coughing, wheezing.  HE doesn't even have to touch them, just be in the house where they are.  I think it was Rebekah who mentioned sleek coated cats being worse - when DS first started reacting to dogs, it was the short, oily-coated ones that got him the worst.  Boxers, labs, beagles, etc.  Eventually, it became all dogs, but his two worst reactions were to a poodle and a Yorkie.  Go figure.  ~)

SL, your DS is on to something with his "color coding", but he's slightly off base.  There is a link between color and allergen shedding.  According to recent research, light cats are less allergenic than dark, female less than male.

I used to have a pair of female cats, Oreo and Inca.  Oreo was white with black splotches, Inca jet black.  I was really not a particularly fussy housekeeper in those days, and nobody realized I had a cat until they strolled out to greet their adoring public.  People who swore they had horrible cat allergies never even sniffled around them.

Little Foot, an orange male, was an allergy bomb.  Even I would react with a slight cough at times when nuzzling him; that's when I knew it was time for him to have a bath - which really helped.

I feel for your DS.   My DS had to stop going to certain houses, among them was one of his best buddies from birth.  But now that he's on the other side of puberty, I'm seeing some hopeful signs.  He can tolerate one friend's dog - a beagle, of all things.  Yes, he has to wash his hands if he touches her, but he can touch her.  And be near her.  And be in the house with no problems.  I'm hoping his doggie horizons will continue to expand.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: Macabre on September 10, 2013, 10:23:31 PM
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Title: Re: Cats
Post by: Macabre on September 11, 2013, 04:23:13 PM
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Title: Re: Cats
Post by: SilverLining on September 11, 2013, 06:41:30 PM
You have a mean streak in you.   ;)
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: CMdeux on September 12, 2013, 08:53:55 AM
... adding to the above observation, it's a very feline thing, when you get right down to it.  ;)

Title: Re: Cats
Post by: CMdeux on September 12, 2013, 08:57:02 AM
QuoteIf you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats.  ~Lemony Snicket


There.  On-topic.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: SilverLining on September 12, 2013, 09:15:31 AM
One of our favourite quotes.

Though ds did point out....you don't have much choice...the hair ends up in your mouth and nose.  Especially if you are allergic to cats.
Title: Re: Cats
Post by: dlibby1angel on September 18, 2013, 09:36:51 PM
FWIW, my son is allergic to cats, though we have one and he does okay with him. We recently inherited three more, crazy I know. He is fine with them too. However, when he was just three he was helping my Dh in the basement and Dh had him sit in the cats chair. Only the cat used that chair and it was full of hair and surely dander.

We didn't know about his allergies then but we got a clue that day! He had hives, red eyes, itching, wheezing, vomiting, and runny nose. I gave him Benadryl and he felt better enough to play, but still vomited some. I don't know if that was an ana reaction for sure, but I think it was. He is not diagnosed with asthma, but has an inhaler for rare wheezing. He is 8 now and does fine so far with all the felines; though they are on probation and if he has any sign of a problem the three newbies are out.