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Offline livingnutfree

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Iep vs 504
« on: October 28, 2011, 06:03:21 PM »
Am I understanding this right that they the same. My dd has both but this was bedside our old school was clueless with FAs. Her new school wants to streamline it n put them both together. As long as it still makes them liablr I dont se a reason not to. Would also make certain that everyone  she sees at school is aware of her allergy.
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Re: Iep vs 504
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 06:25:53 PM »
You need to be sure they are keeping the 504 for the qualified LEARNING disability and then adding the food allergies onto it under

"other health impairment"

Does that make sense?

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Re: Iep vs 504
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 06:40:22 PM »
she said there's a seperate medical section that the allergy would go under in the IEP.
so is that what you are meaning?
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Re: Iep vs 504
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 07:59:10 PM »
You need to be sure they are keeping the 504 for the qualified LEARNING disability and then adding the food allergies onto it under

"other health impairment"

Does that make sense?

OHI (other health impairment) is one of thirteen qualifying conditions under an IEP, not a 504. You can have an educational diagnoses and "OHI". You might even consider it winning the lottery. IEP have distinct procedural safeguards, which *should* be enumerated in the mandatory "Parent's Rights" tree killing handout they generally deliver with most notices (also mandatory) associated with an IEP.

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Re: Iep vs 504
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2011, 08:01:51 PM »
I could be wrong, but I do believe the school actually has a RIGHT to DEMAND the OHI and educational need (but truly, they both are) be addressed by an encompassing IEP. There is funding associated with it, even if it is minimal. (but is generally neither the greatest reason, nor the most frequent behind such contingencies.
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Re: Iep vs 504
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 12:44:26 PM »
There are differences between and IEP and a 504 plan.  Generally speaking, the IEP includes modifications, accommodations and goals to support the disabled student's education.  The 504 plan just has accommodations.  Both attempts to level the playing field to provide free and appropriate public education (FAPE).  A student with a disability that impact his/her learning falls under IEP.  A student who's disability doesn't impact learning but does need accommodations to access the school falls under 504 (FA, asthma, wheelchair-bound etc).  Food allergy accommodations can be included in the IEP if your child qualifies for an IEP due to a disability that effects learning. 

I have 3 kids.  2 have IEP's for learning disabilities (LD) and my child with food allergies (FA) has a 504 plan.  If your child qualifies for an IEP due to a disability that impacts learning, then it's up to the district to provide policy on how to manage the 504 vs. IEP.  OCR states that if a child qualifies for an IEP and a 504 plan, then the child's accommodations for the 504 plan should be put in the IEP.  Since Section 504 is covered in IDEA, then the FA accommodations can be included in the IEP since IEP falls under IDEA.  Some districts find it easier to add what would usually be 504 FA accommodations in the IEP (which is fine) or have both the 504 for FA and the IEP for LD.  However, many are denying FA accommodations in the IEP and that is a violation of the student's rights.  Whatever your district chooses, be sure that the FA accommodations (the ones that address equal access by making the environment safe) is addressed (written in detail).

The flip side to this is if your child's FA impacts his/her learning and is eligible for an IEP due to the FA.  It would take A LOT to prove that FA is impacting the learning so much that modifications, accommodations and goals are necessary to level the playing field.  If that is the case (and in some rare cases it is like a student who has severe anxiety due to food allergies & cannot function due to panic attacks, misses a lot of school b/c of exposure and complications to his/her health, all combined etc), the burden of proof is on the parent as many in the district have a hard time seeing the link between the two.  If that's the case, then the child's disability will fall under OHI (as stated before).

http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/504faq.html
« Last Edit: October 29, 2011, 12:48:08 PM by AdvocateByFate »

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Re: Iep vs 504
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 02:13:02 PM »
Yes, the biggest difference (functionally) that I can think of between the two (other than the obvious differences in procedural safeguards)-- is this:

IDEA entitles qualifying children to an EDUCATION THAT DOES RIGHT BY THEM PERSONALLY....

and 504 entitles qualifying children to the same education as their unaffected peers.


So.  A gifted child with a 504 plan isn't entitled to differentiated materials or opportunities to reach their potential-- only the same curriculum offered to their peers.


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